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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 00:01:16 CST
Subject: PUBYAC digest 32

PUBYAC Digest 32

Topics covered in this issue include:

1) TV Turn-off Week
by "Tatar, Becky" <bltata@aurora.lib.il.us>
2) Re:Board Book Storage
by Myrna Sigal <msigal@ansernet.rcls.org>
by Vicky Jaksic <VKozich@ci.irving.tx.us>
4) RE:
by "Denise P. Stout" <dpstout@ccls.org>
5) RE: Shelving of Picture Books
by "Denise P. Stout" <dpstout@ccls.org>
6) Re: your mail
by kay bowes <kbowes@tipcat.dtcc.edu>
7) Dial-in Story times
by "Mary Cameron" <Mary.Cameron@mail.lib.state.ia.us>
8) "Policing the Internet isnt' the library's job"
by "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>
9) Poem: Dance of the Thirteen Skeletons
by Sullivan <ksulliva@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
10) library newsletters
by "Kathy Eaton" <eatonkathy@hotmail.com>
11) board book shelving
by "Hicks, Marcia" <MHardmon@ci.greenville.tx.us>
12) Re: Shelving of Picture Books
by Elizabeth Thomsen <et@noblenet.org>
13) need music activities
by Tracey Love <tcywork@yahoo.com>
14) Profanity in children's literature
by "Saunders, Katherine" <ksaunders@mail.sppl.net>
15) Board Book Shelving
by Karen Bortner <karenbor@kcls.org>
16) Books dealing with teen pregnancy
by Bryce <Bryce@exchg1.palsplus.org>
From: "Tatar, Becky" <bltata@aurora.lib.il.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: TV Turn-off Week
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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 10:19:06 CST
We started this about 9 years ago. However, realizing that asking people to
not watch any tv can be difficult, if not impossible, we changed it a bit.
We ask people of any age to pledge to give up 1, 2, 3 or 4 programs a day
during National Library Weekand read instead. This is strictly on an honor
system. There's no way we could monitor this. During April, people can
turn in their pledge sheets. At the end of the month we have drawings for
gift certificates from the local Borders bookstore. The more programs a
person gave up, the larger the gift certificate. We publicize it through
the local newspaper, the local cable station, and flyers around the library.
We issue a press release in the paper listing the winners. The only large
cost to us is the gift certificates - 8 in all. One set for juveniles -
under 8th grade, and one set for adults - 9th grade and older. Hope this
helps. Good luck!
Becky Tatar
Unit Head, Periodicals/Audiovisual
Aurora Public Library
1 E. Benton Street
Aurora, IL 60505
Phone: 630/264-4100
FAX: 630/896-3209
e-mail: bltata@aurora.lib.il.us
From: Myrna Sigal <msigal@ansernet.rcls.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re:Board Book Storage
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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 10:52:46 CST
We use 3 plastic milk crates - "A-G", "H-O", "P-Z". Letters are for
last name. Corresponding letter on spine. It's worked out well - area is
and easily "shelved".
Myrna Sigal
West Nyack, NY
From: Vicky Jaksic <VKozich@ci.irving.tx.us>
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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:00:25 CST
Hi gang! I am posting need for yet more help, merely 2 weeks after I last
posted. I had such a successful response, that I thought I would try again
with something new.
HELP!!!! My branch is lacking phonetic readers and vowel readers for the
early/beginning readers. I already know about Moncure's books and another
set put out by Child's World called Wonder Books. Any other promising
titles/series out there? Send any responses to my e-mail address, or write,
or fax. I would greatly appreciate any assistance!
IRVING, TX 75062
FAX: 972-721-3637
From: "Denise P. Stout" <dpstout@ccls.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE:
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Rubbermaid Rough Totes or milk crates on the floor have worked the best with
our patrons for board books. The babies and toddlers love being able to
choose for themselves. sometimes they play let's see how many we can take
out and put back in, but they do look at the books. One day we found a
little cutie had crawled inside the bin just to be surrounded by the books
and was "reading" a board book. I wish I had a camera, it was sooo cute!
Denise M. Pulgino Stout, Youth Services Outreach Librarian
Chester County Public Library
450 Exton Square Parkway
Exton PA 19341
From: "Denise P. Stout" <dpstout@ccls.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Shelving of Picture Books
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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:15:48 CST
What is best for your patrons is what is best for the collection. I come
from two very large collections and strict order is more diffiult to shelve,
but when you are looking for that one book, it is sooooo much easier to
find! It also gives an opportunity to teach the very young that they need
to be aware of order at libraries. Having a place they can put books when
they are finished browsing instead of reshelving them are a big help too.
You'll probably find that weeding will rise in priority; why put that much
time into a book that could probably use replacing?
Denise M. Pulgino Stout, Youth Services Outreach Librarian
Chester County Public Library
450 Exton Square Parkway
Exton PA 19341
From: kay bowes <kbowes@tipcat.dtcc.edu>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: your mail
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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:23:20 CST
We have one of those alphabet block shelving units with shelves on all
four sides of the cube. We also have a slanted table that we display the
board books on. This seems to work fairly well, except when all the board
books are in -- then it gets tight. If your collection is large, two of
the cubes might be worth while. Finding a place that all four sides can
be open is a problem for us, however. Hope this helps.
Kay Bowes
Concord Pike Library
Wilmington, DE
From: "Mary Cameron" <Mary.Cameron@mail.lib.state.ia.us>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Dial-in Story times
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:35:37 CST
I have two libraries that are looking for dial-in story time programming
ideas. Please send me any ideas you might have.
Mary Cameron
Youth Services Consultant
State Library of Iowa
E 12th and Grand
Des Moines, Iowa 50319
(515) 281-7572
(515) 281-6191 fax
From: "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: "Policing the Internet isnt' the library's job"
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 12:06:37 CST
This will probably disappear from the Tallahassee Democrat website on
Wednesday, Jan. 5.
Michael Rouse, Library Systems Coordinator LeRoy Collins Leon County Public
Library, is going to ask the Democrat to put the file in a permanent
location so it will still be accessible after Wednesday.
"Policing the Internet isnt' the library's job"
"Pro-filtering groups are fond of saying that libraries are 'offering
pornography' by failing to restrict Internet access. But in reality, they
are simply offering a powerful tool that parents should teach their children
how to use responsibly."

Don Wood
American Library Association
Office for Intellectual Freedom
50 East Huron Street
Chicago, IL 60611
800-545-2433, ext. 4225
Fax: 312-280-4227
From: Sullivan <ksulliva@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Poem: Dance of the Thirteen Skeletons
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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 12:18:39 CST
I had a patron come in the other day looking for the words to a Halloween
poem titled, The Dance of The Thirteen Skeletons. Unfortunately, she
doesn't know who the author is. It's a fairly long poem and she had the
first half memorized and needs the other half for a school assignment. If
anyone knows where I can find the words to this poem, please e-mail me at
Thank you and Happy New Year!
Kelly Sullivan
Half Hollow Hills Community Library
55 Vanderbilt Parkway
Dix Hills, New York 11746
From: "Kathy Eaton" <eatonkathy@hotmail.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: library newsletters
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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 15:47:01 CST
Hi. I am looking for tips on creating a quarterly newsletter for a small
public library. If anyone can offer suggestions re: content as well as
suitable publishing program to use to produce it I would be grateful. Write
directly to me at Eatonkathy@hotmail.com or just post on PUBYAC. Thank you
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
From: "Hicks, Marcia" <MHardmon@ci.greenville.tx.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: board book shelving
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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 15:56:19 CST
Wow! You guys are great. I've had over 25 responses to my query about
shelving board books. 2 have asked to post a synopsis.
Here goes:
By far, the most popular method is placing them in crates, bins, or baskets
in a "toddler" friendly area.
The majority does not strive for order of any kind with this collection, and
many do not catalog these titles individually.
A few libraries used book bins (specially made low for toddlers to reach on
their own).
Several used cubes open on all four sides. One mentioned that it was hard
to find a space where all four sides could be available at once.
2 libraries mentioned a shelving unit that was shaped like a large
dollhouse, but neither knew exactly where it came from.
1 library shelved on low shelves next their parenting section.
In general the feeling is that this is a "browsing" collection, and should
be completely accessible to the intended audience, toddlers. While the
young readers pulled many books from the baskets/bins, they were just as
interested in putting them back, and some felt that it kept them from
pulling books from the "organized" picture book sections.
Thanks so much for your suggestions. They are really helpful and I think I
have a good idea of what I would like to do.
Marcia Hicks
Children's Librarian
W. W. Harrison Public Library
Greenville, TX 75401
From: Elizabeth Thomsen <et@noblenet.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Shelving of Picture Books
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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 16:03:58 CST
I like Denise's quote: "What is best for your patrons is what is best
for the collection" and just wanted to repeat it because it's something
that we can never hear too often.
I've worked with several different picture books, shelved in various
ways, and, as I've written here before, I am a great proponent of
shelving picture books face-out, in bins, rather than spine-out, on
shelves. But in either situation, you have the same problem. Are you
shelving them alphabetically by just the first letter of the last name,
by the last name, by the last and first name, or by the last and first
name and then alphabetically by title? The first two approaches, in my
opinion, make it really hard to find a specific title, or books from a
particular series. Especially in the B's-- and even if you go to last
name, you have all those Marc Browns and Margaret Wise Browns all mixed
in together!
But there's another approach that can be tried, that's a little simpler
than going totally alphabetical. Create special subsections for the
most popular authors and series, and then just let the rest be in less
strict order. This is what the music stores do with CDs-- they have a
divider for three or four of the most popular performers or composers
whose names start with a letter, and then the rest are just labelled A
or B or whatever.
Most of the time when people are looking for a particular title, it's
something from a popular series or by a well-known author, and putting
these together will make it much easier for patrons to find what they
are looking for. And when you are looking for an individual title
that's not one of the popular authors or series, it's a lot easier to go
through the generic Bs when all the Marc Browns and Margaret Wise Browns
have been pulled out!
Elizabeth Thomsen, Member Services Manager
NOBLE: North of Boston Library Exchange
Danvers MA 01923
From: Tracey Love <tcywork@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: need music activities
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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 16:12:07 CST

I have recently begun to do a program called "music
time". This program is for ages 1 1/2 to 4 years, and
has been very popular to date. Does anyone do a
similiar program, and would you be willing to share
some ideas with me? I have been happy with what I
have done so far, but I am constantly searching for
more musical activities.
I would love to see your ideas, and in return I would
be only too happy to share my own.
Tracey Dittoe
Lane Public Library
Hamilton, OH
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From: "Saunders, Katherine" <ksaunders@mail.sppl.net>
To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Profanity in children's literature
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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 16:19:28 CST
Hi. I have a mother who is concerned with profanity in some of the titles on
her sixth grader's Accelerated Reader list. She would like to know if anyone
has ever published a list of children's books that either contain, or
definitely do not contain, profanity. Personally, I think that keeping
books from readers solely based on the fact that they have a cuss word in
them would make them miss out on a lot of great literature, but that is
neither here nor there in helping her with this reference query.
Thank you for your help!
Katherine Saunders
Public Services Librarian
Southern Pines Public Library
170 West Connecticut Ave.
Southern Pines, NC 28387
Phone: 910-692-8235
Fax: 910-695-1037
Email: ksaunders@mail.sppl.net
From: Karen Bortner <karenbor@kcls.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Board Book Shelving
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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 16:27:34 CST
Hi All:
I missed the e-mail requesting shelving options for board books so I
am just posting to the list.
I have a wonderful option. We had an excess of the CD bins at our
library when we moved into our new location. I utilized the extras for
board books, easy fiction paperback and easy non-fiction paperback. The
shelves fit in perfectly - face out and keep the floor area from being
cluttered with bins and books. The shelves are low so the babies can
reach them and secure so nothing tips over on them.
Happy New Year to all.

Karen Bortner
Children's Librarian
Foster & Tukwila Libraries
King County Library System
From: Bryce <Bryce@exchg1.palsplus.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Books dealing with teen pregnancy
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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 16:35:43 CST
Happy New Year!
A patron of ours has a 16 year old daughter who is pregnant. The mother
also has a number of younger children between the ages of 4 and 8. She has
not told them yet, but must do so soon, as the daughter will be starting to
She would like a book that the younger kids could read (or that she could
read to them) that deal with this issue of a teen sibling having a baby.
We've searched other library catalogs and "Best Books for Children" but have
found nothing appropriate. Any ideas out there? TIA.
Richard Bryce
Senior Children's Librarian
West Milford Township Library
"So many things have made living and learning easier. But the real things
haven't changed. It is still best to be honest and truthful; to make the
most of what we have; to be happy with simple pleasures and to be cheerful
and have courage when things go wrong"- Laura Ingalls Wilder
End of PUBYAC Digest 32